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Justus Ranvier

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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #60 on: August 14, 2013, 04:01:14 AM »
Looks like *I* forgot to push the branch with the fix.  Sorry. It's there now:)
Works now. Thank you.

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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2013, 08:12:48 PM »
Is there any chance of this branch getting merged into mainline? I notice the repository on GitHub is about a month out of date compared to the main one.

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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2013, 06:11:45 PM »
I'm concerned that I won't have the resources to maintain it. People will demand various changes; for example, it lists an identity associated with a subscription so that replies will be sent from that identity but the UI had no way of changing it.

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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2013, 07:30:12 PM »
Is that a way of saying that you'll never merge this functionality at all, even if the author solves the problems you have with it in its current form?

I'd like to know this now, because I have future projects in mind that depend on the ability of Bitmessage to run as a daemon and integrate easily with existing email tools, and if that's never going to happen I need to start looking at alternatives.

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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #64 on: September 20, 2013, 03:38:13 PM »
So far the people who want to use Bitmessage via an email program seem to get by with the intermediary gateways that access PyBitmessage via the API.  I think that's the right approach.  I'm afraid if this pull gets merged into the core project, then someone's going to demand IMAP, and someone else is going to demand SSL, and someone is going to want the gateway to deal with multipart MIME, etc, etc, and that's just less time to focus on the actual protocol and network.
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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #65 on: September 22, 2013, 11:11:32 PM »
I think it's unlikely I will merge it right now. It is generally assumed that it takes 10 times more work to maintain code throughout its lifetime than to write the code in the first place and it appears to me that with this addition it might be even worse. I'm sorry.

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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #66 on: September 29, 2013, 06:16:05 AM »
some E-mail clients tend to convert the address to lowercase, you should probably use an address format, that does not depend on the casing of the address. Also what is the reason for SSL, it will throw Certificate errors at the client and does not adds security. If somebody is able to sniff on the localhost interface he can also read memory from applications

SSL is good, if services are bind to public interface. SSL certificate erros? No, if you just install right certs for the system, on server or at client end. Both ways will work just fine.

Btw. This is nice idea, to use BitMessage as MTA. Allowing regular clients to be used with it.

I think it's unlikely I will merge it right now. It is generally assumed that it takes 10 times more work to maintain code throughout its lifetime than to write the code in the first place and it appears to me that with this addition it might be even worse. I'm sorry.

I completely agree with you. That's why it's important afaik, to have  a nice plugin / extension / rest / developer  API which allows other people (aka additional resources) to work on extensions and let's you to mainintain your own forcus on the core.
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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #67 on: October 01, 2013, 01:58:02 PM »
So far the people who want to use Bitmessage via an email program seem to get by with the intermediary gateways that access PyBitmessage via the API.
Where does one find one of these gateways?

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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #68 on: October 01, 2013, 03:10:53 PM »
So far the people who want to use Bitmessage via an email program seem to get by with the intermediary gateways that access PyBitmessage via the API.
Where does one find one of these gateways?
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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #69 on: October 02, 2013, 09:29:29 PM »
You can find a local solution here: https://bitmessage.org/forum/index.php/topic,1587.0.html
or you can use a service like https://bitmessage.ch
Unfortunately neither of those options is acceptable.

I don't run Windows, so the first option doesn't work, and using a third party Bitmessage gateway completely invalidates the entire purpose of using Bitmessage in the first place.

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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #70 on: October 02, 2013, 10:16:07 PM »
You can find a local solution here: https://bitmessage.org/forum/index.php/topic,1587.0.html
or you can use a service like https://bitmessage.ch
Unfortunately neither of those options is acceptable.

I don't run Windows, so the first option doesn't work, and using a third party Bitmessage gateway completely invalidates the entire purpose of using Bitmessage in the first place.

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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2013, 05:45:13 PM »
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...which is not maintained.

At this point there's no reason for me to continue running a Bitmessage node. The only solution that works is sarchar's, and that doesn't appear to have any future.

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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #72 on: November 03, 2013, 04:01:19 PM »
...which is not maintained.

It doesn't need to be. Nothing is broken (as far as I know--if I'm wrong, make a github issue), and it's "feature complete" as far as my own needs are concerned.
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Re: Bitmessage with builtin SMTP/POP3 servers
« Reply #73 on: July 18, 2018, 01:44:25 AM »
try this...python pop3 server