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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2013, 02:23:50 PM »
Awesome service. Added to the directory.

Thanks.

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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2013, 04:58:47 PM »
By the way, I suppose people can test this via one of the echo addresses (send email, get echo email back).

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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2013, 06:14:47 PM »
By the way, I suppose people can test this via one of the echo addresses (send email, get echo email back).

I haven't tried, but I don't see why not.

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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2013, 10:14:36 PM »
Some things still need fixing:
  • First test message I sent issue was fixed.
  • 2nd test message never arrived nor bounced back, disappeared into black hole, even after 48h.
  • 2nd test message sent revealed that addresses without BM- prefix bounce back, ideally non-BM- prefixes should also work, since a BM- address is actually the part after BM-
  • 3rd test message sent arrived after around 16 hours (rough estimate, not checked exactly)
  • There is no indication who the email is from no from address, just a BM- address as sender
Also many (most?) people are using BMwrapper to allow Bitmessage to be used in a powerful open source Email client Thunderbird rather than PyBitmessage. Thus it should ideally work well in Email format in that client, but it fails to display HTML as HTML -- perhaps this is something you can discuss with Arceliar who is the creator of BMWrapper, to find out where the problem lies. The test email displays thus:
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Message part 1:

Message part 2:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
  <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8">
  <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.28.3">
</HEAD>
<BODY>
Test
</BODY>
</HTML>
<br/><br/>--- via bitmsg.cc
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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2013, 09:30:30 AM »
Is there a way to debug this service? I really like the idea (currently trying to use bitmessage as a mail-server). But I sent now two messages from an mailadress to a bm-address of mine, and they never arrived. One yesterday, one two hours ago. Simply sending a mail from a x@y.com to BM-...@bitmsg.cc should work, or did I misunderstand?

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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2013, 06:42:02 AM »
If there is no encryption between the email client and the bitmsg.cc server, or if the SSL certificate/authority is compromised, then anything sent or received via such gateways will be readable by XKeyscore or similar systems.
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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2013, 08:21:57 AM »
Thanks. That is correct.

My plan is a bit complicated maybe. I really would like to use bitmessage, but I also need email. So I wanted to use bitmessage additionally as a decentralized mailsever (something I never wanted to setup) by having pybitmessage running on my homeserver, using it via a mailclient, and for bc-comaptibility with the mailsystem forward mails to one of my bitmessage-addresses by using a simple email gatway - like this one. Which sadly fails and I don't know why :(

bitmessage.ch I saw, but it doesn't seem possible to forward mails as bitmessage to a controlled-by-me bitmessage-address.
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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2013, 08:29:15 AM »
bitmessage.ch I saw, but it doesn't seem possible to forward mails as bitmessage to a controlled-by-me bitmessage-address.
Just go into the E-mail control panel and setup forwarding to <youraddress>@bitmessage.ch and all messages are forwarded to another bitmessage address.
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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2013, 09:01:18 AM »
Thanks! That would be great.

However, I seem to make a mistake. After enabling the forwarding, the mail bounces back:

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From: admin@bitmessage.ch

Your Message could not be sent, because the receiver is not known.
You cannot send bitmessages from your regular account (yet), but we will add this feature.
Head over to https://bitmessage.ch/setup.html for more instructions.
Thanks

I don't see a hint on the page of what I'm doing wrong. Do I have to tell your system my own bitmessage-address somehow? Maybe I didn't understand how to in parallel use an address on bitmessage.ch and also on pybitmessage locally, if that is the general idea.
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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2013, 09:26:02 AM »
The system is different from bitmsg.cc
You have to create an account first. It will generate a bitmessage address for you (I call this A). You can then configure this account to forward all messages to another address in the E-Mail settings. if it should go into the bitmessage network, you can forward messges to <BM-Addr>@bitmessage.ch (call this B)


You can then send messages to A and it will forward it into the network to B. if you enter "broadcast@bitmessage.ch" as B in the settings you have made yourself a free mailing list. Most users seem to use it this way according to the message numbers in the virtual broadcast account.
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Support the Multipart Message Declaration Draft for Bitmessage: https://bitmessage.org/forum/index.php/topic,1553.0.html
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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2013, 09:46:27 AM »
Thanks again.
You have to create an account first. It will generate a bitmessage address for you (I call this A). You can then configure this account to forward all messages to another address in the E-Mail settings. if it should go into the bitmessage network, you can forward messges to <BM-Addr>@bitmessage.ch (call this B)
That is exactly what I did, I think. A is an account on bitmessage.ch, registered by using a password. B is a bitmessage address generated in pybitmessage. And there is an unrelated email-address used, let's call it C.

I'm able to send a mail from C to A. I'm able to send a bitmessage from B to A, and from A to B. But I don't seem to be able to send a mail from C to A which get forwarded to B, because the moment the forwarding is enabled, the bounce with the quoted message occurs.

Wait. Do I need to use the same email-address I used to generate the account to send the mail which shall become a forwarded bitmessage, and it just fails because I didn't use a mail-address to generate the account?

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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2013, 11:37:28 AM »
Wait. Do I need to use the same email-address I used to generate the account to send the mail which shall become a forwarded bitmessage, and it just fails because I didn't use a mail-address to generate the account?
Nope. Using an E-mail address at all is optional for account generation. I will look into this as forwarding seems to be an issue.
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2013, 11:39:47 AM »
That would be great. Thank you very much, for the support and the service itself!

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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2013, 02:22:37 PM »
That would be great. Thank you very much, for the support and the service itself!
Everything should be working by now. Looks like the mailserver did not replace from and to fields in the message when forwarding. Implemented manual replacement, including for broadcasting.
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Re: bitmsg.cc - Dead Simple Email Gateway
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2013, 03:35:51 PM »
Confirmed, works. Thanks! Now I have an alternative to the blackholey bitmsg.cc :-) (and maybe even that gets resolved in the future)